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Title: Shanksville local says Val's photo is fake!
Description: anniversary of phone call - NEW VIDEO


Killtown - March 29, 2008 11:20 AM (GMT)
Arguably Shure's most smoking gun phone call:

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QUOTE
(March 27, 2007)

Jeff: Val McClatchey... she has a famous photo.

Ms. Leverknight: It was a fake photo, because it didn't have a mushroom cloud.

Jeff: It what?

Ms. Leverknight: There was no mushroom cloud.

Jeff: So it was a fake photo?

Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.

Jeff: Her photo's faked?

Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.

Jeff: For what? For money?

Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.

Jeff: Why, do you know that for sure?

Ms. Leverknight: Yeah!

http://flight93photo.blogspot.com/2007/03/...t-says-val.html

tvfakery2001 - March 29, 2008 08:07 PM (GMT)
awesome

AmandaReconwith - March 29, 2008 09:43 PM (GMT)
Kelly's account that was written in the The Daily
American states that she immediately went to the crash
site and did not see any bodies. This conflicts with
another version in the St. Petersburg Times which said
that Kelly went to the Shanksville-Stonycreek School.
Coincidentally, her husband, Bob Leverknight, is not
only a photographer for the Air National Guard (Tech
Sgt. Bob Leverknight, 167th Airlift Wing) who was on
active duty on 9/11 but is also a Daily American Staff
Writer who can be reached at bobl@dailyamerican.com


ROBERT GLENN LEVERKNIGHT b.06/05/1932 d.11/23/2000
BETTY GEAN GASTLEY LEVERKNIGHT (71)

ROBERT GLENN LEVERKNIGHT II (45)
KELLY R MCALLISTER LEVERKNIGHT (42)
ROBERT GLENN LEVERKNIGHT III (22)
MATTHEW LEVERKNIGHT (19)(DOB May 2, 1988)
KATHRYN ANN LEVERKNIGHT (18)

Matthew Leverknight has an interest in computers.

mattleverknight@yahoo.com

Matt Leverknight Internetworking 2007 2nd Place
http://voc.ed.psu.edu/paskills/Results%202007.htm

Linux Forum Screen Name leverknight1
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/members/leverknight1.html


Witnesses Recall Plane Crash

The Daily American, Somerset County's Newspaper

A plane going over Shanksville wasn't anything unusual
because it is a military flight corridor, said Kelly
Leverknight, who lives in Shanksville, just a couple
miles from the crash scene.

"I was sitting in my living room when I heard a plane.
I ran out to the front porch and watched it go down,"
she said. "There was no smoke, it just went straight
down. I saw the belly of the plane."

She said she heard the explosion, felt the blast, then
saw smoke and fire coming out.

"I thought it hit the school," she said.

She didn't have a car, so she ran to the neighbor's
house and the two drove to where the plane had crashed
and went into the trees.

"The grass was burned. We saw a bunch of paper and
pieces no bigger than a foot around scattered all over
the place," she said. "We didn't think there were
people on the plane because we didn't see anybody."


A blur in the sky, then a firestorm
St. Petersburg Times, September 12, 2001

Kelly Leverknight was watching news of the attacks on
New York and Washington when she heard the plane.

It sounded like it was flying low above her home in
rural Pennsylvania, moving from west to east. It was
an odd enough sound that she stepped outside to have a
look.

"I heard the plane going over and I went out the front
door and I saw the plane going down," said
Leverknight, 36. "It was headed toward the school,
which panicked me, because all three of my kids were
there.

"Then you heard the explosion and felt the blast and
saw the fire and smoke."

Leverknight and dozens of her neighbors raced to the
Shanksville-Stonycreek School where they found their
children safe.

http://www.sptimes.com/News/091201/Worldan...e_sky__th.shtml

Small town shoulders a nation's grief
St. Petersburg Times,September 10, 2003

Bob Leverknight, 41, a native who lives on
Lambertsville Road, the main route to the crash site,
said he has stopped mowing his yard on weekends
because 25 people will stop and ask directions.

"Everybody seems to be holding their breath and
waiting," said Kelly Leverknight, a school bus driver
who lives outside Shanksville.

"For what happens next," her husband, Bob, said.

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/09/10/news_pf/...houlders_.shtml

9-11 Mysteries Remain

Asked how Flight 93 disappeared into the crater
without leaving a trace, Bob Leverknight, an active
member of the Air National Guard and correspondent
with Somerset's Daily American, told AFP at the
newspaper's office, "It [the ground] liquefied."
However, one of the massive engines, Leverknight said,
inexplicably bounced off the ground and was found at a
considerable distance in the woods.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/9-11_mysteries.html

Shanksville, Pa.
In the sky, a heroic struggle aboard hijacked United
Flight 93
U S News and World Report

The signs of change in Shanksville range from the
intangible–hushed reverence over an otherwise
unremarkable field–to the obvious–unheard-of traffic
on badly paved roads. Upward of 100 cars a day rumble
past Robert Leverknight's house, heading the mile or
so to the crash site. Before September 11, only a
handful passed daily. Without wanting to sound
disrespectful, he confides that the hubbub is making
some "people here talk about leaving." And
Leverknight, 40, a photographer for the Air National
Guard and the county newspaper, the Daily American,
has other new worries. Strangers from who knows where
now ask his 12-year-old daughter for directions as she
plays in the family's front yard, and she helps them.

It has been awhile–most agree since the Whiskey
Rebellion of 1794 (in which settlers rioted against
excise taxes)–that the country even knew the town
existed. "It used to be, 'Where the heck is
Shanksville?' " says Valencia McClatchey, who lives
near the crash site and snapped the oft-reproduced
photo of a plume of smoke hovering over an old red
barn and staining the morning sky.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/9_11/articles...shanksville.htm

Special Report: The Day of the Attack
Time September 12, 2001
The rogue plane soared over woodland, cattle pastures
and cornfields until it passed over Kelly
Leverknight's home. She too was watching the news. Her
husband, on his regular tour of duty with the Air
National Guard's 167th Airlift Wing in Martinsburg,
W.Va., had just called to reassure his wife that his
base was still operating normally when she heard the
plane rush by. "It was headed toward the school," she
said, the school where her three children were.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8...74655-4,00.html

Leverknight Daughter says McClatchey Photo is a Fake
http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/2007/03/27/le...hoto-is-a-fake/

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SeekingTruth - March 29, 2008 11:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (AmandaReconwith @ Mar 29 2008, 09:43 PM)
Witnesses Recall Plane Crash

The Daily American, Somerset County's Newspaper

A plane going over Shanksville wasn't anything unusual
because it is a military flight corridor, said Kelly
Leverknight, who lives in Shanksville, just a couple
miles from the crash scene.

"I was sitting in my living room when I heard a plane.
I ran out to the front porch and watched it go down,"
she said. "There was no smoke, it just went straight
down. I saw the belly of the plane."

She said she heard the explosion, felt the blast, then
saw smoke and fire coming out.

"I thought it hit the school," she said.

She didn't have a car, so she ran to the neighbor's
house and the two drove to where the plane had crashed
and went into the trees.

"The grass was burned. We saw a bunch of paper and
pieces no bigger than a foot around scattered all over
the place," she said. "We didn't think there were
people on the plane because we didn't see anybody."

http://us-pentagon.tripod.com/cache/dailya...n/disaster.html


A blur in the sky, then a firestorm
St. Petersburg Times, September 12, 2001

Kelly Leverknight was watching news of the attacks on
New York and Washington when she heard the plane.

It sounded like it was flying low above her home in
rural Pennsylvania, moving from west to east. It was
an odd enough sound that she stepped outside to have a
look.

"I heard the plane going over and I went out the front
door and I saw the plane going down," said
Leverknight, 36. "It was headed toward the school,
which panicked me, because all three of my kids were
there.

"Then you heard the explosion and felt the blast and
saw the fire and smoke."

Leverknight and dozens of her neighbors raced to the
Shanksville-Stonycreek School where they found their
children safe.

http://www.sptimes.com/News/091201/Worldan...e_sky__th.shtml

I see several problems with those accoutings.

1. Why did she say west to east? Wasn't it supposed to be unmistakably northwest to southeast?

2. If that plane was already that low she could see the belly and hear it above her house, how fast and at what altitude could that alleged commercial jetliner possibly be going so close to sea level? At what point did it change to a much less steep angle on descent? It would mean the plane had been at a steeper, angle and then started to level off. Which means it would most likely not go in center nose first. Instead, it would first make contact under the nose ahead of the cockpit, allowing the rear to start rapidly dropping to the ground on any impact.

3. She heard felt a blast 2 miles away? How did she do that if it was an alleged commercial jetliner? Just how powerful was that blast to feel it a couple of miles away and what would have caused it? Since when does jet fuel cause a blast to be felt a couple of miles away?

4. The grass was burned but not paper? From where did the papers come and what did they say?

5. Why didn't she mention any mushroom cloud in her accounting? She says the photo was a fake (which it very likely is) because it had no mushroom cloud. What exactly was she trying tell to anyone? It seemed to be of importance when she called a photo fake because it had no mushroom cloud.

I am not certain how many people are aware of this, but when Boeing 767s and 757s fly domestically, they are never fully fueled, in order to cut down the weight of fuel for fuel efficiency. Therefore, how much fuel was actually in an alleged Flight 93, which could not have been much. Considering the following:

1. Alleged the "hijackers" took the scenic route west over Ohio.

2. Did a hairpin turn over Cleveland.

3. And then took a steep southeast direction over the southern part of Pennsylvania.

How much of a jet fuel blast and fire could have occurred under those conditions?

So a commercial jetliner and the contents went to liquid, did it? Exactly what was it causing that "liquifying" process, for the first and only time in documented aviation history on 9/11/2001 at 10:03 AM?

Killtown - March 30, 2008 10:50 PM (GMT)
Check out this new short video I made of Shure's phone call to the Leverknight's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuw0rbF2c0w

I posted it in the OP too.

SeekingTruth - April 1, 2008 02:36 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Killtown @ Mar 30 2008, 10:50 PM)
Check out this new short video I made of Shure's phone call to the Leverknight's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuw0rbF2c0w

I posted it in the OP too.

I did watch what was posted in the OP. However, it just led to more questions. Such as how the daughter was so certain there was nothing originally there, and how she stated she knew money was paid for promoting a fake photo. Was that from her mother? Was it from Val McClatchey's own mouth? Did she witness exchange of money for promotion of a fake photo? How did she know for certain about any money directly related to that photo?

I am fairly well convinced it was a fake photo based on other factors I considered.

At the same time, there are too many unexplained comments and inconsistancies in Kelly Leverknight's accounting. As I recall, her husband is an active member of the Air National Guard. Kelly Leverknight is not appearing to be completely candid with the public, about what she asserts she witnessed.

Too bad people have no access to a negative of the original photo. Digital camera perhaps? Whereby, any possibility of locating any original negative is zero. She only took one photo and no other? She did not try to get near the scene to take additional photos? Too many unanswered questions in Val McClatchey's case as well.

There are a large of farms in that area. Surely, someone had at least one horse or burrow he or she could have ridden to the fringe edge of east side, of the site alleged to to be a Flight 93 crash site, and taken more pictures without being spotted or chased off by the authorities. They could have gotten there before the authorities did. I have not seen any photos taken and publicly displayed under those conditions. Are there any?

They appeared to have farms not far from the western tree line behind the alleged Flight 93 crash site. Why didn't someone close get there before the authorities? It looks to be in close walking distance.


Killtown - April 1, 2008 07:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SeekingTruth @ Apr 1 2008, 02:36 AM)
1. Such as how the daughter

2. was so certain there was nothing originally there, and how she stated she knew money was paid for promoting a fake photo. Was that from her mother? Was it from Val McClatchey's own mouth? Did she witness exchange of money for promotion of a fake photo? How did she know for certain about any money directly related to that photo?

3. Too bad people have no access to a negative of the original photo. Digital camera perhaps? Whereby, any possibility of locating any original negative is zero.

4. She only took one photo and no other? She did not try to get near the scene to take additional photos? Too many unanswered questions in Val McClatchey's case as well.

5. There are a large of farms in that area. Surely, someone had at least one horse or burrow he or she could have ridden to the fringe edge of east side, of the site alleged to to be a Flight 93 crash site, and taken more pictures without being spotted or chased off by the authorities. They could have gotten there before the authorities did. I have not seen any photos taken and publicly displayed under those conditions. Are there any?

6. They appeared to have farms not far from the western tree line behind the alleged Flight 93 crash site. Why didn't someone close get there before the authorities? It looks to be in close walking distance.

1. Say "daughter" because we don't that was her daughter. We think it was Kelly trying to hide her identity. Kelly's daughter was in grade school back on 9/11 and should be in high school during that call. Doubtful she sounds like a 40yr-old woman in high school.

2. Of course a slurry of question arise from that conversation, but I think it's pretty remarkable I had been the only one outside of Shanksville who had started claiming the photo might be fake and then a local confirms that not only it is fake, but exactly why it was fake. I had never speculated that Val took photos on 9/11 before hearing Ms. Leverknight's call.

3. Yes, taken by digital camera, "forgotten" about it for few days, showed printed it out and showed authorities, then THREE FBI agents show up at her house.

4. Which is more evidence that it is fake because too convenient that she "only took one" which if you're going to fake a photo, it's less risky to fake one instead of multiple pics.

5. Her one photo is the "only known photo" of that plume. However they claim there was video taken 10miles away of the smoke that "vindicated" her photo. Of course they never released they alleged video.

6. A handful of residents arrived before authorities. NONE described the forest on fire!







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